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Banter with Billy
Hosted by Envy’s own Billy Cina, this B2B marketing podcast dives into the real, unfiltered conversations happening in boardrooms (and bedrooms), Slack channels, late-night strategy sessions and the water coolers. Whether you're building a tech startup, figuring out how to turn your marketing into actual revenue (what a concept), or looking to scale, we’ve got you covered.
Expect candid banter with CMOs, VPs, and marketing leaders who know a thing or two about growing pains and what it takes to hit ambitious growth goals.
Zero buzzwords, fluff, or corporate non-sense, guaranteed.
Banter with Billy
The Landing Page Queen on Why Demo Forms Are Dead 💅 Billy Banters With Tas Bober
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You trust buyers to make $50,000 decisions. So why are you trapping them behind a form just to "see the product"???
In this banter, Envy's Billy Cina sits down with Tas Bober‬, the landing page queen herself, to pull apart everything B2B marketers get wrong about landing pages.
Turns out the old playbook (big form up top, three bullet points about how you're "AI-powered," no way out) is quietly killing your pipeline.
Tas explains what actually converts, why you have to date your buyers before you ask them to marry you (duh), and how she moved a single buried FAQ block and watched purchases jump 265%.
What we get into:
↳ Why 52% of companies don't even use a landing page (and why that's mistake #1)
↳The pre-conversion signals most marketers ignore — and where the real data lives
↳ Why 70% of buyer research happens before they ever talk to you
76 touch points. 6.8 stakeholders. One form on visit one. Do the math.
↳ The Snagit story: one FAQ, moved up the page, +265% in purchases (not trials)
↳ Why your landing page can't live in isolation from the rest of your brand
If your ads look great, your targeting's spot-on, your CPL is low, but pipeline still isn't moving, this one really is for you.